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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:18 am    Post subject: Pat Rhoden Reply with quote

Was listening to his version of Boogie On Reggae Woman the other day. Nice voice....... https://youtu.be/KBniAvmfIck



. Winston Patrick Rhoden, c.1950, Jamaica, West Indies. In 1963 Rhoden left Jamaica to take up residence in the UK. Four years later he recorded his first record, ‘Jezebel’, for Rita King’s R&B label. While with R&B Records he recorded soul ballads and duets with a rising starlet, under the name of Pat And Maureen. Rhoden began working with Dandy Livingstone, who had also recorded for Rita King, and signed with Trojan Records. In 1969 Rhoden successfully signed with Philips Records, who released ‘Let The Red Wine Flow’ and ‘I Need Help’, credited to Pat And Brother Lloyd’s All Stars. The major label contract was short-lived and Rhoden resurfaced in 1970 with his biggest-selling hit, ‘Maybe The Next Time’, and ‘Do What You Wanna Do’ for Pama Records. Three years later he was back with Trojan, where his hit ‘I’ve Got A Nose For Trouble’ recalled his experiences within the music industry. Other releases with the label included versions of Stevie Wonder’s ‘Boogie On Reggae Woman’ and ‘Living For The City’. By 1975 Rhoden had become involved in the Jama group, an independent partnership alongside Tito Simon and B.B. Seaton. Two releases by Rhoden, ‘Sweet Sunshine’ and ‘Happiness’, maintained his chart profile. He ventured into production work with the Meditations, who recorded ‘Sympathy’ and ‘Johnny’, while also promoting other productions for the label. Notable releases for Jama include Junior Byles’ ‘Fade Away’ and I. Roy’s ‘Welding’, which were licensed to a major label but failed to cross over into the mainstream. The label survived into the 80s with the re-releases of Rhoden’s ‘Stop’ and ‘Sweet Sunshine’, which were minor hits. ‘Stop’ had previously topped the reggae chart in 1976, although it was originally the b-side to ‘Let’s Move A Mountain’.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite liked the tune 'Johnny' by the Meditations too- wish I picked it up when I saw it Sad

Can't seem to find a sample on the web Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure this is the first tune I heard/had by Pat.... On the Reggae Jamaica Vol 3 LP Trojan (TBL 204)....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mvd0Z60Hto

NB: The album cut has added strings IIRC.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a big fan of Pat R.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I quite liked the tune 'Johnny' by the Meditations too- wish I picked it up when I saw it Sad


Likewise. I have 'Sympathy' and 'I Am A Loner' but not this one.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Pat Rhoden Reply with quote

j j wrote:
Was listening to his version of Boogie On Reggae Woman the other day. Nice voice....... https://youtu.be/KBniAvmfIck



. Winston Patrick Rhoden, c.1950, Jamaica, West Indies. In 1963 Rhoden left Jamaica to take up residence in the UK. Four years later he recorded his first record, ‘Jezebel’, for Rita King’s R&B label. While with R&B Records he recorded soul ballads and duets with a rising starlet, under the name of Pat And Maureen. Rhoden began working with Dandy Livingstone, who had also recorded for Rita King, and signed with Trojan Records. In 1969 Rhoden successfully signed with Philips Records, who released ‘Let The Red Wine Flow’ and ‘I Need Help’, credited to Pat And Brother Lloyd’s All Stars. The major label contract was short-lived and Rhoden resurfaced in 1970 with his biggest-selling hit, ‘Maybe The Next Time’, and ‘Do What You Wanna Do’ for Pama Records. Three years later he was back with Trojan, where his hit ‘I’ve Got A Nose For Trouble’ recalled his experiences within the music industry. Other releases with the label included versions of Stevie Wonder’s ‘Boogie On Reggae Woman’ and ‘Living For The City’. By 1975 Rhoden had become involved in the Jama group, an independent partnership alongside Tito Simon and B.B. Seaton. Two releases by Rhoden, ‘Sweet Sunshine’ and ‘Happiness’, maintained his chart profile. He ventured into production work with the Meditations, who recorded ‘Sympathy’ and ‘Johnny’, while also promoting other productions for the label. Notable releases for Jama include Junior Byles’ ‘Fade Away’ and I. Roy’s ‘Welding’, which were licensed to a major label but failed to cross over into the mainstream. The label survived into the 80s with the re-releases of Rhoden’s ‘Stop’ and ‘Sweet Sunshine’, which were minor hits. ‘Stop’ had previously topped the reggae chart in 1976, although it was originally the b-side to ‘Let’s Move A Mountain’.


That article seemed familiar and then I remembered it's from that Virgin Encyclopedia or did you find it on line?
I know AllMusicGuide ( http://www.allmusic.com/ ) use it s a source.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first (knowing) musical encounter with Pat Rhoden was via the "Rocksteady Hits of '69" album - one of my first ever Reggae-related LPs (the others being TU1, "Fabulous Greatest Hits" and "This is Desmond Dekkar([i]sic[/])") and one which I moved on, later regretted it, but was lucky enough to be gifted a copy about 5 or 6 years ago by Pete ("kirkatron" in here), so order was restored...



I did hear from BB a few years ago that Pat had had cancer, but was recovering...which was only good news, of course.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My first (knowing) musical encounter with Pat Rhoden was via the "Rocksteady Hits of '69" album - one of my first ever Reggae-related LPs (the others being TU1, "Fabulous Greatest Hits" and "This is Desmond Dekkar([i]sic[/])") and one which I moved on, later regretted it, but was lucky enough to be gifted a copy about 5 or 6 years ago by Pete ("kirkatron" in here), so order was restored...


I can't say I've ever heard it Joe, but probably should. The other one (almost a companion to it) is the 'Let The Red Wine Flow' set.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's Johnny!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yblQzpadKfc

I Am A Loner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfspmDVvG1o

And here's a little bit on The Meditations from a couple of years ago:

http://forum.trojanrecords.com/viewtopic.php?t=12248&sid=6bdba34f3d01df8ea7df9391c681bb1b
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My first (knowing) musical encounter with Pat Rhoden was via the "Rocksteady Hits of '69" album - one of my first ever Reggae-related LPs (the others being TU1, "Fabulous Greatest Hits" and "This is Desmond Dekkar([i]sic[/])") and one which I moved on, later regretted it, but was lucky enough to be gifted a copy about 5 or 6 years ago by Pete ("kirkatron" in here), so order was restored...


I can't say I've ever heard it Joe, but probably should. The other one (almost a companion to it) is the 'Let The Red Wine Flow' set.
It isn't a "killer" set or by any means "essential", Marc...
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the 'Johnny' link Charlie, any chance you can post a link to the B side???

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: Pat Rhoden Reply with quote

northern ian wrote:
j j wrote:
Was listening to his version of Boogie On Reggae Woman the other day. Nice voice....... https://youtu.be/KBniAvmfIck



. Winston Patrick Rhoden, c.1950, Jamaica, West Indies. In 1963 Rhoden left Jamaica to take up residence in the UK. Four years later he recorded his first record, ‘Jezebel’, for Rita King’s R&B label. While with R&B Records he recorded soul ballads and duets with a rising starlet, under the name of Pat And Maureen. Rhoden began working with Dandy Livingstone, who had also recorded for Rita King, and signed with Trojan Records. In 1969 Rhoden successfully signed with Philips Records, who released ‘Let The Red Wine Flow’ and ‘I Need Help’, credited to Pat And Brother Lloyd’s All Stars. The major label contract was short-lived and Rhoden resurfaced in 1970 with his biggest-selling hit, ‘Maybe The Next Time’, and ‘Do What You Wanna Do’ for Pama Records. Three years later he was back with Trojan, where his hit ‘I’ve Got A Nose For Trouble’ recalled his experiences within the music industry. Other releases with the label included versions of Stevie Wonder’s ‘Boogie On Reggae Woman’ and ‘Living For The City’. By 1975 Rhoden had become involved in the Jama group, an independent partnership alongside Tito Simon and B.B. Seaton. Two releases by Rhoden, ‘Sweet Sunshine’ and ‘Happiness’, maintained his chart profile. He ventured into production work with the Meditations, who recorded ‘Sympathy’ and ‘Johnny’, while also promoting other productions for the label. Notable releases for Jama include Junior Byles’ ‘Fade Away’ and I. Roy’s ‘Welding’, which were licensed to a major label but failed to cross over into the mainstream. The label survived into the 80s with the re-releases of Rhoden’s ‘Stop’ and ‘Sweet Sunshine’, which were minor hits. ‘Stop’ had previously topped the reggae chart in 1976, although it was originally the b-side to ‘Let’s Move A Mountain’.


That article seemed familiar and then I remembered it's from that Virgin Encyclopedia or did you find it on line?
I know AllMusicGuide ( http://www.allmusic.com/ ) use it s a source.





Hi Northern Ian, it was the first thing to a bio that popped up on google , you could very well be correct about the source though?

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

j j wrote:
thanks to the 'Johnny' link Charlie, any chance you can post a link to the B side???

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Here's Johnny Version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ISQsEWd97Q
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one, jj! I love some Pat Rhoden, I do! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much for that Charlie! I've never heard the full B side before, only a small sample, fantastic stuff Very Happy Very Happy

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