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Charlie Chalk
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Sploom wrote:
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Dr. Sploom wrote:
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I think Tony Washington has too many links to 'kosher' Ska and Reggae for it to be Cod-Ska:


Completely agree - and these are only the ones we know he appeared on. I'm guessing there were many more.
I stand corrected, as I'd completely lost the plot, forgetting his 1970's efforts. So I retract, my assertion.

Thanks for keeping me, up to speed, despite my brain's OS, being fawlty, like Basil, fellows!

Now, which one of you, is Polly, and which one is, Sybil?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie Chalk wrote:
Dr. Sploom wrote:
Charlie Chalk wrote:
Dr. Sploom wrote:
Bosssounds wrote:
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I think Tony Washington has too many links to 'kosher' Ska and Reggae for it to be Cod-Ska:


Completely agree - and these are only the ones we know he appeared on. I'm guessing there were many more.
I stand corrected, as I'd completely lost the plot, forgetting his 1970's efforts. So I retract, my assertion.

Thanks for keeping me, up to speed, despite my brain's OS, being fawlty, like Basil, fellows!

Now, which one of you, is Polly, and which one is, Sybil?

Very Happy Wink



Touche! Laughing Laughing Laughing

Suddenly, I want some Waldorf salad, paella, veal, & sausages. I'll stay away from the kipper, though. Mr. Green

Duck's off.
The Siberian hamster ate it. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Tony Washington has too many links to 'kosher' Ska and Reggae for it to be Cod-Ska:


Completely agree - and these are only the ones we know he appeared on. I'm guessing there were many more.
A-ha! I was thinking of the song in isolation of aught else...it having "appeared" on the car stereo that V same day!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Sir Alec & his Boys THOKO (Continental PD9203 / 1967) - it's a clarinet-led cod-reggae instrumental and features banjo. I can't find it on youtube, but here is what I presume to be the original by the Mahotella Queens from 1964:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZOfg-kgSzQ

...at least I think it's the same tune (writer credit is "Vilakazi")

The B side is an instrumental version of Tommy Roe's SWEET PEA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCKXxJRgVgc

Here's an example of Sir Alec's work...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_QIQq86Vzc
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zapatoo_the_Tiger wrote:
How about Sir Alec & his Boys THOKO (Continental PD9203 / 1967) - it's a clarinet-led cod-reggae instrumental and features banjo. I can't find it on youtube, but here is what I presume to be the original by the Mahotella Queens from 1964:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZOfg-kgSzQ

...at least I think it's the same tune (writer credit is "Vilakazi")

The B side is an instrumental version of Tommy Roe's SWEET PEA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCKXxJRgVgc

Here's an example of Sir Alec's work...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_QIQq86Vzc

I can't spot it either. Are they a UK act?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think so - a release on Deram, clarinet and banjos, cover versions and it all sounds a bit tongue-in-cheek.

However, I'm not sure that this Continental label is UK - the fonts don't look right and there aren't any ant-skid "ridges" (or whatever they're called around the edge of the label.

Re my opening remark up above, Reggae hadn't evolved in 1967,. but that's closest to what the tune sounds like.

I'll record it from my camera (the sound quality won't be that good), post it on YT and then put a link here - assuming there's any sound quality, that is.

...and I'll do a label scan of some kind (although photobucket doesn't allow links any more, unless I upgrade to a $500/year premium account!)

BTW, I'm sort of surprised you don't have this record.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Near equivalent is the below, although I think my record is a solid centre, without prongs.

http://www.45cat.com/record/pd9213
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK, the Continental label was exclusive to South Africa and Rhodesia.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AFAIK, the Continental label was exclusive to South Africa and Rhodesia.


Yes - I have a Miriam Makeba 45 on that label.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very likely that "Sir Alec & his Boys" were not UK then?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zapatoo_the_Tiger wrote:
Very likely that "Sir Alec & his Boys" were not UK then?
South African, AFAIK. Sir Alec=Dan Hill. His Boys=session players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdE8gcBf808
Langarm in Cape Town

So, it's a far bet, Deram were trying to cash in, on the "langarm" sound, and cross-over, if you will.

Lots of those African sides, are really interesting! South African, and Rhodesian, being some of my favourites.....

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*thumbs up*
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